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QUESTION:
I was involved off and on with this girl from work (I know first mistake).
About 6 months ago we were seeing a lot of each other and we were sort of
in that whole girlfriend/boyfriend mode of spending a lot of time with each
other. I had suspicions that she was also flirting/seeing someone else here
at work and to make a long story short my suspicions were confirmed.
I ended up leaving her alone and she ended up getting
pretty serious with this other guy here at work. I took it pretty well by
not associating with her completely, however, given the fact that she works
here, I have to see her. She's was seeing this guy exclusively for the past
6 months and I was also testing the dating waters and doing my own thing.
Fast forward to today, the relationship with the
other guy who used to work here has fizzled out and we've been emailing
small talk with each other and sort of have plans to "catch up".
Our branch manager (a woman) is good friends with this chic and she likes
the idea of us getting together.
I'm having second thoughts about getting involved with this girl again and
this whole sitation is nagging at my psyche. I mean, she's a cute girl, independent
etc... but I don't know if I've completely forgiven here for lying to me about
seeing this other guy who used to work with us. On the other hand, I dont
want to look like a childish little boy and not see her at all, just becuase
my feelings were hurt.
I know I just need to increase my options so things like this wont be an
issue in the future. This situation seems like it has drained my energy to
the point that I don't even feel as excited about approaching/gaming women.
You have any opinions on this situation?
I want to say thanks for taking the time to research this stuff in order
to help us guys who werent able to pick up these alpha traits naturally. The
course is pure gold for anyone who didnt have a solid alpha father figure
growing up. The things you teach in the Alpha Male course are essential for
anyone who wants a better life period, let alone a better dating life. I now
have the tools that I need to succeed in anything I put my mind to.
Thanks
W
Charlotte, NC
CARLOS ANSWERS:
I don't consider it a mistake to date someone from work, contrary to popular
belief.
But dating someone you suspect can't HANDLE a workplace romance IS a mistake.
I've dated (ahem) many women at the places I've worked.
Once I even saw a girl at a place where there were only 5 of us.
Talk about potentially combustible.
But I always knew, no matter what happened *I* could handle the fallout.
If I couldn't, then my sorry butt had better not be jumping into an office
romance, right?
(This is the concept of "self-control," gentlemen...
Know thyself.)
Now in your situation you have every right, though, to have some concerns,
but as long as she didn't treat this guy in a way that you would find disrespectful
(or downright scary), you have nothing to lose by practicing with her.
My recommendation, though, is more about YOU.
You need to learn the fine art of letting go. If you're holding on to this
bitterness and resentment, it will probably color any relationship you try
to have.
I'm also concerned when you tell me that you're
putting so much thought into this situation that it "has
drained my energy to the point that I don't even feel as excited about approaching/gaming
women."
Dude, that's way too much. Why do you feel this way?
(continued ... )
Situations don't drain you - it's all the emotional
investment and mental
energy you're putting into this.
I suspect there's too much thinking going on here, and too
little acting.
A common mistake that guys get caught up in (particularly introverted guys
like myself) is that they become so attached to their internal world that
they fail to fully participate in the outside world.
Read that again. That applies to almost everyone, really.
Get in gear and start meeting some women that may not be convenient to hit
on. (Meeting women at work is a convenience factor - no approach is necessary.)
Go meet women in parties.
Go meet women in bars.
Go meet women online.
Go learn how to approach women anywhere RIGHT NOW by clicking here
QUESTION:
I listen to your podcast religiously and it's helped me gain some real depth
in my communications. I'm overcoming by anxiety around attractive women and
to meet new freinds. In short, it's a weekly guidepost towards my becoming
more alpha. Your commentary is very insightful which is why I'd like to see
if you can help me shed some light on this question I have.
A friend of mine and I go to bars and meet people regularly, and have very
different styles of approach, I'm laid back where he's goofy. To use a celebrity
comparison he reminds me a lot of Will Ferrel. My question is, is his approach
working or has he just learned to compensate for a bad approach?
When he opens people up, he comes in with lines
such as "Hi, have you
been hit on tonight? No? Good, I didn't want to make you feel left out." or "Hi,
do you want to buy me a drink?"
He'll go up to group after group of
people in the bars generally hitting up any available sets. When he does this
he's usually wearing these terrible glasses that he got from the air force
and a community college shirt and does this mock "I'm smooth" voice.
He's trying to be cool by going the far opposite end into dorkdom that he
becomes cool by default. He's stays with the group for about 15 to 20 minutes
or so, does very little kino, gets a number and leaves. He's done this enough
,he says, that he can transition out of that super dork persona into a real
person quickly.
He's done this so much people are recognizing him
at bars when he opens them and say "Didn't you ask us the same question last week?"
I
think he's pigeon holing himself into a goofball role that never really
attracts women even though he gets positive reactions because he's energetic
and silly. I also don't think he's connecting by talking to so many people
and not remembering who they are or even their names.
Am I wrong in thinking this? Is it just because he and I are polar opposites
when it comes to our styles that I think he's digging himself into a hole?
Thanks for your insight, please keep bringing on the advice, it is much appreciated.
-P
CARLOS ANSWERS:
Hmm... I like that you've thought about the various aspects
of this guys game.
However, I'm reading your email, and one word keeps coming
to mind:
Jealousy.
Admit it, aren't you a little jealous that he's able to just walk up and
approach anyone? Because, on some level, this is working for him.
The other reason I think this is because of all the situations you chose
to write in about, you're more concerned with his goofiness than improving
your own skills. All I hear is your resentment, not your openness to learning
what his example can teach you.
The best thing you can do is to start looking at what
works for him and start
modeling it yourself.
Don't worry about your friend. He doesn't really need
your concern. If he was ready to learn from you, he'd be asking you questions.
YOU, on the other hand, can
learn a lot from him by modeling his behavior and using what works for you.
The fact of the matter is that this guy is an approach MACHINE,
and even if he is a dork, he'll get girls based on sheer volume and numbers.
Yes, he's got some faults he needs to work on in his game, but they're not
that severe.
I think he's a STUD.
He's doing what
95% of the other guys out there are not: He's approaching
and talking to women.
You should be doing everything he is, only improving and
modifying it to fit your authentic personality.
You don't like
that he forgets names? Great. You can start to remember them.
You don't like his goofy glasses? Fine. Wear some normal
ones. Or not at all.
Forget your criticism of his game. Instead, get on top of your own.
I have a roadmap for you to do this, and you can get it HERE: Alpha Game
is REAL Game
QUESTION:
I have a question that I thought you would be able to
help me with. I have a friend that I have known for most of my life, but he's
turned out to be a reall ass. He seems to take advantage of me whenever its
convenient, and thinks its acceptable to insult me and at times hit me if
he thinks something I did was stupid, or disapproves of some opinion/value
I voiced.
Part of me is saying that I should just ignore him and move on (the latter
is definitely true, whether I ignore him or not) but part of me thinks that
I should do something more about this. My question for you is.... how do you
think I should deal with this?
P.S. I have been reading your newsletters and listening to the podcasts for
a while now. I've decided that I'm finally going to use your stuff. I will
also probably be getting your Alpha Man book . Thanks for all the great info,
--Jon
CARLOS ANSWERS:
There's a saying: You teach people how to treat you.
Whatever is going on with you two, he's obviously taking advantage of more
than you think.
Keeping someone like this around is unhealthy as heck, and will only serve
to lower your self-image as he whittles away at you.
But let's also keep in mind that he might also be
serving as your "teacher." He
sees where you're wussing out and is trying to get you to "man up."
Is it just your bruised ego, or is it possible that he's
not only obnoxious, but RIGHT about you?
Consider that possibility, and that maybe you need to respond to him not
with hurt indignation and weepy pouting, but with a change
in your behavior...
Once you've figured out whether or not he's yanking
your chain or not, you should then consider how best
to deal with him. I
recommend a serious heart-to-heart over a couple of brewskis. Don't go into
a tearful jag of "telling him
your feelings," but you have a right to put him
in his place.
(continued ... )
"Dude, your behavior towards me has been pretty
annoying lately. I like hanging with you, but this bullshit has to stop.
Cut out the constant ball-busting and needling - unless I'm really being
a genuine puss. Otherwise, secure that crap. You dig?"
If he's a genuine asshole, he'll just get all flustered and indignant, maybe
even aggro. If he's got any heart, he'll consider what you say and get
it together.
Either way, you need to do this to start your process
of "manning up." You
need to set a new standard of behavior in your own life that affirms your
masculine power. No more bitch treatment.
Capisce?
If you want to check out for yourself whether or not you're
a real Alpha, or possibly being a wuss, I suggest you get my Alpha
Man program sooner
rather than later.
When you say "probably will
be getting," it
sounds like you're on the fence, and you might be wussing out on your own
resolution.
If you won't change now, what makes you think it will be easier later on?
After you've had a chance to make your bad habits even more hard to break?
It's easy to find an excuse, but it's more Alpha to find the motivation.
The only constant in life is CHANGE. If you can't change or adjust to new
situations, you're already extinct.
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